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Written By Sorrel

March 9, 2018, 2:56 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Derovai

You might. You might think that there's something to be said for the socioeconomic privilege that can come with being noble. Whether that's worth it to give up your children is entirely on you and your priorities. That's something you can judge the parents for.

Another commoner has said that he loves his (potential or real) children too much to sacrifice his parental rights to make them noble. I would hazard those children are granted an edge in being raised by parents who love them. Is that edge greater than the socioeconomic privilege?

Written By Calaudrin

March 9, 2018, 2:40 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Sorrel

Thank you for the clarification, Princess Sorrel.

Just to note, I am a commoner. And I can tell you for a fact there is a rich and wonderful life out there beyond seasilk and piles of silver.

I wouldn't send my children away for the wealth and privilege of the nobility. However, I don't dare judge someone who has.

I sincerely hope the mother is comfortable with this decision and it was made freely.

Written By Thena

March 9, 2018, 2:36 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Sorrel

And the confusion continues, because it is so incredibly easy to not get knocked up.

Written By Jeffeth

March 9, 2018, 2:35 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

I will confess I don't understand a lot of what the argument is, and I'm not trying to throw my hat onto either side. Mostly because I don't know what the sides are. But I do understand there's a lot of talk about adoption. So I thought I would write that I know a lot of good kids in the orphanages in the Lowers. And if noble houses are adopting I could point out quite a few youngsters that have very good hearts. But if they stay in the orphanages I think that's fine, some kids turn out alright. I did alright.

Written By Alarissa

March 9, 2018, 2:33 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Victus

My husband corrects me.

That is fine. For I was wrong.

But he now owes me a new dress before he sails to war.

And his daughter one as well.

She likes white like her mother.

Written By Derovai

March 9, 2018, 2:28 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Sorrel

"If you were common, you might give up your parental rights to have your children become noble, after all."

Why?

Please, tell us more about what specific criteria might be involved here. I note I say nothing on this particular situation -- not my place, not my interest. But I am curious what criteria you have in mind.

Written By Sorrel

March 9, 2018, 2:23 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Calaudrin

I am under the impression that the mother consented to have her children taken away because that was the wish of their father and that she is further being permitted to stay with them as they transition to their new lives. However, she is a common member of the Thrax fealty, and I believe she is sacrificing her own parental rights to give her children a better future (as Pravus adoptees). I feel further that she felt as if she had no choice but to consent because, like all parents, she desires the best for her children.

If you were common, you might give up your parental rights to have your children become noble, after all.

Written By Ainsley

March 9, 2018, 2:23 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Sometime back there was a fire in the Upper Boroughs, during that fire myself and a few others (Lord Ian notably) attempted to rescue four children from a burning house. We got the majority of them down safely, but the oldest-- a young teenaged girl by the name of Aniyah --was the last left. This brave girl begged us to make sure the young children got free, and to leave her so that no one else would get hurt. I could not do this. I put her on my back and in desperation jumped.

Aniyah has been with the mercies for sometime for her shattered legs. I check in on her, and I have taken her-- despite her arguing about it --as my ward. She is not a princess, she has not been adopted nor ennobled. (Note: This young girl would have laughed in my face had I offered and argued even harder. Because at fifteen she is wiser than myself and some of the Peerage.)

Aniyah, as my ward; will be well educated, well taken care of, given all of the things she needs, and treated kindly.

I'm given to believe that this is the typical arrangement between a noble and a commoner, when a noble comes to be the guardian of a commoner under the age of majority.

Written By Driskell

March 9, 2018, 2:21 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Through adversity comes change. Through challenge, we evolve.

Written By Victus

March 9, 2018, 2:19 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

So I see we've got another rumble in the Whites. Here's my only tidbit.

Abbas Crownsworn's children were not acknowledged while he was in Thrax. They were bastards that were not given any official titles of the peerage. With Abbas Crownsworn now no longer being welcome in our family, I had no intention of acknowledging they were offspring of Thrax at any point.

That's it. I don't have any opinions about who House Pravus adopts, they are offspring of a man I no longer call kin. Arguments about common-born being ennobled and such and such is nowhere near my knowledge.

Written By Thena

March 9, 2018, 2:07 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Gods almighty, how many people are up that excommunicate war criminal’s butt again?

Written By Alarissa

March 9, 2018, 2:05 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Reigna

As you wish.

Written By Reigna

March 9, 2018, 2:05 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Cassima

As a point of fact, he does not. Kael was born, legitimate from a marriage. He was raised unconventionally, but in truth, he was never not a noble, whether he knew it or not. He was not granted his title. He was born to it.

Written By Calaudrin

March 9, 2018, 2:03 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Sorrel

I'm sorry, please correct me if I'm wrong. Does your last journal suggest the children were adopted out without the mother's express consent?

Written By Tikva

March 9, 2018, 2:02 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Calaudrin

A public apology:

I did in fact make off with your banjo. I am very sorry. I shall return this inadvertently stolen property posthaste.

Written By Reigna

March 9, 2018, 2:01 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Alarissa

No. They do not owe us anything. But we are justified in criticizing their choices when the merits of tthose choices fail to meet our expectations. And you, nor anyone tells me what to write in my journal Princess Consort Alarissa Thrax. I do not take kindly to being told I am not allowed to speak my mind or opinion. Just as you speak yours to put me in my place, I speak mine.

We do not have to agree. We do not have to listen to one another. But no one should be denied the right to express their thoughts. It is my choice. I accept the consequences for doing so.

Written By Cassima

March 9, 2018, 1:59 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Reigna

In an effort to be as transparent in my own thoughts as possible, I shall respond as clearly as I can, Countess.

I do not know your husband but from a single meeting, and certainly I have never inquired as to his background. I know him only as Count Kael Keaton, and have been impressed with him upon our meeting. To be as intellectually consistent in my own arguments as I can, I have never thought nor cared to question him in that regard.

If he fits the descriptions I wrote in my previous entry, that is his business and absolutely not mine, in much the same way the children's' ennoblement is the business of Pravus and not ours.

Written By Sorrel

March 9, 2018, 1:57 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

I have spoken with the children's mother, as it turns out, because I was concerned that two Thrax wards were taken from their mother for no apparent reason. Said mother serves as a handmaiden to the children's aunt, furthermore. Or served, really. She is bitter with House Thrax, presumably for making the father of her children lie in the bed he made.

Their mother assures me that she will have the opportunity to spend time with her children, but she is truly troubled by their separation from their father. Mistress Zaina and Master Abbas ask for support for their children in this time and in the time ahead. That I can grant them. I am willing to support innocent children. I do not condone the actions of their father nor the fact that the mother's parental rights were essentially removed. These children are not orphans in any sense, however, and I offer them the same sort of support I would show any other child in a similar situation.

According to the children's mother, it is the wish of their father that they live ennobled by the Pravus household. While clearly this is a better social situation for the children than being common Thrax wards with little chance of being ennobled by the Thrax household, this doesn't mean the children were treated poorly or were uneducated while living as Thrax wards. It is merely convenient that Pravus is sympathetic to Abbas Crownsworn, who has been excommunicated and removed from his family for war crimes.

Written By Reigna

March 9, 2018, 1:52 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Cassima

In the effort not to assume the worst and to ask, lest I misunderstand...

Are you referring to my husband, Princess Cassima of Thrax?

Written By Alarissa

March 9, 2018, 1:50 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)

Relationship Note on Reigna

Simply put Countess, House Pravus owes not House Keaton, nor any other house for that matters save one, an explanation. House Velenosa, their liege. And clearly, their liege is fine with it. Pravus will do what Pravus will do, and Keaton will do what Keaton will do. Perhaps being affronted might be better served in blacks? It is a thought. Merely such. And now i have better things to do with my own time. Any correspondence from those whowish to debate with me are welcome to send messengers or come to tea and change my view on this situation.

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