Written By Percephon
Feb. 13, 2018, 7:53 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
All kinds of emotions – pleasant and unpleasant – motivate exploration. Pettiness is essentially treating something small as if it were important (especially a perceived personal slight.) In the early stages of a curiosity, being inappropriately obsessed with the apparently trivial is simply a way for that idleness to work and for a realization to arise. Or, in order for an error to be corrected when the lesson is fully learned.
Written By Derovai
Feb. 13, 2018, 7:46 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Percephon
But why, when nonsense is being petaled? Do we not have an obligation to root out the truth of the matter? I would rather look back on these comments and know I rose to the occasion. Otherwise, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, and is not a thorny issue to address.
Written By Percephon
Feb. 13, 2018, 7:43 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Once and floral, we ought to nip this conversation in the bud - cast the topic aside with a florist - and bury it.
Written By Derovai
Feb. 13, 2018, 7:43 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Fairen
I speak out of turn, but must observe that you miss the point, as well might he. I'll readily explain it to you but, I think, it's a job done more tactfully in person. Send a messenger if you want a lesson in comportment and civility from Derovai Voss (and may those words never cross a page again).
Written By Mirari
Feb. 13, 2018, 7:41 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Death, duels and flowers. Today has been very amusing.
Written By Fairen
Feb. 13, 2018, 7:36 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Derovai
Also is the Duke to be faulted for finding women attractive? If this is the case, then I think many men and women in the city are also at fault for this crime.
Written By Emily
Feb. 13, 2018, 7:34 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Violet
A woman of strong shoulder and empathetic enough to welcome the comfort it can give. I saw what you did in delivery such ill wanted news. I find it inspiring the way in which you conduct yourself and am glad to have gotten a moment to speak with you. I would be hard pressed to find a reason not to invite you speak again. To you, Swordswoman. Your men should be glad to have you even though your tasks are not always easy. Sentinel grace you.
Written By Fairen
Feb. 13, 2018, 7:33 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Derovai
Clearly women are unnatural things then.
Written By Derovai
Feb. 13, 2018, 7:30 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Harlan
After implying that women are "natural things" and to be judged by dint of their attractiveness, I think you'll find very few people in the city will have questions for you at all, Your Lordship.
None grater, indeed, although I also note that, at present, that pun seems to be limited to one Ashford and not the rest of the Grayson lineage.
None grater, indeed, although I also note that, at present, that pun seems to be limited to one Ashford and not the rest of the Grayson lineage.
Written By Harlan
Feb. 13, 2018, 6:52 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Mae
So.
Flowers.
I've already handled this, as far as the people who were actually upset enough to simply talk to me about it, after the fact, as opposed to going and talking to their journals. I had previously apologized to those who spoke with me, and my original response to everything was before I took a second, more critical eye to what I had written and had the wondrous thought that -- this was not what I intended to write at all.
I considered the matter at an end, but .... apparently there are those who have little enough to concern themselves in their lives that they must pay attention to every word written.
This is fine, we need people to pay attention to history and to keep us on our toes.
That said, what I originally wrote regarding flowers was ... not well-written. What was written was absolutely not what I meant, and I should have known better to proofread my own writing before actually...putting pen to paper.
What Marquis Leary wrote was much more in line with my own thinking. I like natural things. These include flowers. I like women, especially pretty ones. The first part of what I wrote was about that.
The second part was horribly mis-written, and was a second topic entirely, as Marquis Leary stated. I was reminding myself of my duty. I am glad that others are able to make matches easily and with little fuss. I am glad for you.
To anyone who was upset by my original remarks (and rightfully so), but didn't have the discretion to contact a messenger and actually ask me about it, I offer what little apology is necessary. I have already apologized to those who had that discretion, and I consider that matter over.
In the future, if you have a question about what I say or write, especially when asking me for words on another topic -- ask. We all make mistakes.
Flowers.
I've already handled this, as far as the people who were actually upset enough to simply talk to me about it, after the fact, as opposed to going and talking to their journals. I had previously apologized to those who spoke with me, and my original response to everything was before I took a second, more critical eye to what I had written and had the wondrous thought that -- this was not what I intended to write at all.
I considered the matter at an end, but .... apparently there are those who have little enough to concern themselves in their lives that they must pay attention to every word written.
This is fine, we need people to pay attention to history and to keep us on our toes.
That said, what I originally wrote regarding flowers was ... not well-written. What was written was absolutely not what I meant, and I should have known better to proofread my own writing before actually...putting pen to paper.
What Marquis Leary wrote was much more in line with my own thinking. I like natural things. These include flowers. I like women, especially pretty ones. The first part of what I wrote was about that.
The second part was horribly mis-written, and was a second topic entirely, as Marquis Leary stated. I was reminding myself of my duty. I am glad that others are able to make matches easily and with little fuss. I am glad for you.
To anyone who was upset by my original remarks (and rightfully so), but didn't have the discretion to contact a messenger and actually ask me about it, I offer what little apology is necessary. I have already apologized to those who had that discretion, and I consider that matter over.
In the future, if you have a question about what I say or write, especially when asking me for words on another topic -- ask. We all make mistakes.
Written By Jael
Feb. 13, 2018, 6:47 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Mae
While I stand by my previous words completely, and I am in agreement with Mistress Mae, I do want to point out that I am a Lady.
Written By Fairen
Feb. 13, 2018, 6:44 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Mae
I said nothing of your intellectual capabilities.
You have failed to quote the Duke in this instance.
"It is interesting how many unmarried noble women there are in the city at this time. I seem to find one around every corner, almost. I'm not complaining -- they're almost all beautiful and pleasant. It's akin to walking into a field and seeing an abundance of beautiful flowers of every type surrounding you. It's enough to take one's breath away, almost.
Of course, I have to remember that no matter how beautiful or aromatic a flower might be, it has to fit the need -- I was reminded of that last night. Thank you for that."
The Duke compared the beauty of women to flowers, and attested that there are plenty of beautiful women in the city, as you can see in the first paragraph. In the second, he identified that the woman which he should marry should benefit House Ashford. However, if you could perhaps identify where he commented that women are to be used and plucked for his whim in his journal entry, that would be most helpful in clarifying your opinion on the subject.
You have failed to quote the Duke in this instance.
"It is interesting how many unmarried noble women there are in the city at this time. I seem to find one around every corner, almost. I'm not complaining -- they're almost all beautiful and pleasant. It's akin to walking into a field and seeing an abundance of beautiful flowers of every type surrounding you. It's enough to take one's breath away, almost.
Of course, I have to remember that no matter how beautiful or aromatic a flower might be, it has to fit the need -- I was reminded of that last night. Thank you for that."
The Duke compared the beauty of women to flowers, and attested that there are plenty of beautiful women in the city, as you can see in the first paragraph. In the second, he identified that the woman which he should marry should benefit House Ashford. However, if you could perhaps identify where he commented that women are to be used and plucked for his whim in his journal entry, that would be most helpful in clarifying your opinion on the subject.
Written By Mae
Feb. 13, 2018, 6:37 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Fairen
For a man once challenged for his poor manners I find it a bit comical that you'd talk of needing to reform education. All but calling us wee commoners dumb.
My posting, about Duke Harlan, was about his previous words. Or do you not remember when you, yourself, wrote about flowers? Though, you didn't understand what it was about then, either.
Odd that a scholar like yourself would struggle with these things. Or, wait, were you hoping to reform education so you yourself could take some lessons?
The words to be remembered are that Harlan referred to women as objects, pretty, fragrant, or useful, and in attempting to correct it, only sounded more awful.
Or, as Marquis Mydas wrote, "Cousin, I doubt you'll be able to save a metaphor that compares the women of this city to something easily plucked from the ground or trampled underfoot."
Or, as Lord Jael wrote, "I don’t think you’re making the argument you think you’re making."
Or, as Lady Margerie wrote, "The women of this city, be they noble or common, be they unmarried or not, are not flowers to decorate some noble's hall or chamber."
Though I think I prefer Lord Archeron's words best: "That was a very creepy way to put it, Cousin."
My posting, about Duke Harlan, was about his previous words. Or do you not remember when you, yourself, wrote about flowers? Though, you didn't understand what it was about then, either.
Odd that a scholar like yourself would struggle with these things. Or, wait, were you hoping to reform education so you yourself could take some lessons?
The words to be remembered are that Harlan referred to women as objects, pretty, fragrant, or useful, and in attempting to correct it, only sounded more awful.
Or, as Marquis Mydas wrote, "Cousin, I doubt you'll be able to save a metaphor that compares the women of this city to something easily plucked from the ground or trampled underfoot."
Or, as Lord Jael wrote, "I don’t think you’re making the argument you think you’re making."
Or, as Lady Margerie wrote, "The women of this city, be they noble or common, be they unmarried or not, are not flowers to decorate some noble's hall or chamber."
Though I think I prefer Lord Archeron's words best: "That was a very creepy way to put it, Cousin."
Written By Cambria
Feb. 13, 2018, 6:29 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
I shudder with distaste.
Written By Fairen
Feb. 13, 2018, 6:28 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Mae
So the Duke commented that there were a lot of beautiful women in the city, but that he must not be distracted by these and instead select a woman that suits his House the best. Is this an accurate understanding of the written works you wish to be remembered?
Written By Mae
Feb. 13, 2018, 6:16 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Cara
In an earlier white reflection, Duke Harlan lamented how walking through the throngs of beautiful, unmarried women in this city was like walking through a field of flowers. He must not pluck just the most beautiful and aromatic flowers, he must pluck the flower that's useful to him.
In defense of his own words, he continued to point out that we women folk were not just beautiful and fragrant, but we also could be useful for our practical skills.
I had hoped that the duke's words would be properly remembered, when he did find his "flower". Now we see him lamenting over marriage again, and the difficulties in selecting an arrangement. I'm merely making sure the duke's words are remembered.
Perhaps you ought to write Duke Harlan to aid him through his difficulties?
In defense of his own words, he continued to point out that we women folk were not just beautiful and fragrant, but we also could be useful for our practical skills.
I had hoped that the duke's words would be properly remembered, when he did find his "flower". Now we see him lamenting over marriage again, and the difficulties in selecting an arrangement. I'm merely making sure the duke's words are remembered.
Perhaps you ought to write Duke Harlan to aid him through his difficulties?
Written By Fairen
Feb. 13, 2018, 6:07 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Mae
You are certainly helping to come to the realization that an education reform is necessary, along with Master Magpie Grayhope.
There was nothing identified in the Duke's journal about flowers. If there was some confusion about the intention of his statement, it would not be difficult for you to ask for clarification.
There was nothing identified in the Duke's journal about flowers. If there was some confusion about the intention of his statement, it would not be difficult for you to ask for clarification.
Written By Cara
Feb. 13, 2018, 5:52 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Mae
Nobles don't have the luxury of choosing flowers, Mistress Mae. We wed for contract and for bloodline, not romance.
Dukes simply have a different criteria in their spouses -- what is best for their House and lineage. Floral variety, alas, has very little to do with it.
Dukes simply have a different criteria in their spouses -- what is best for their House and lineage. Floral variety, alas, has very little to do with it.
Written By Laric
Feb. 13, 2018, 5:43 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Aleksei
You know, I couldn't agree more.
Going over my older journals, it seems the last duel I was involved in was thirteen years ago last month. That's a good sign for the challenge I'm about to put forth.
Going over my older journals, it seems the last duel I was involved in was thirteen years ago last month. That's a good sign for the challenge I'm about to put forth.
Written By Victus
Feb. 13, 2018, 5:41 p.m.(3/3/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Magpie
Go get 'em, Mags. You got people who believe in you.
I'm not one of them, but surely they exist.
I'm not one of them, but surely they exist.
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