Written By Jordan
May 15, 2018, 1:06 p.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Showmanship or not, it is within the purview of all people to have an opinion on whether or not they enjoyed a public event. I had to leave for reasons related to business, as it is my wont these days, and I wish both fighters of the duel the best.
Nevertheless, I'd just like to point something out for His Highness, the Peerless of the Champion's Guild, but if the Archlectors of either or the Legate of Concepts or the Dominus himself believe my understanding in this is flawed and erroneous, I am open to correction forthwith: Artistry belongs in the realm of Jayus. Strength of arms, so long as it is done honorably and fairly, is Gloria's purview. It is not about her 'caring', it is about the mode of worship. We worship Gloria by fighting. Even sparring can be considered worshipping Gloria.
Thus, to say that Gloria 'doesn't care' whether or not the issue is serious is besides the point. In fighting, she is given her honors. That said, Your Highness, I applaud you for your decision to stand by the members of your Guild, as that shows a willingness to support and make sure your own prosper.
Nevertheless, I'd just like to point something out for His Highness, the Peerless of the Champion's Guild, but if the Archlectors of either or the Legate of Concepts or the Dominus himself believe my understanding in this is flawed and erroneous, I am open to correction forthwith: Artistry belongs in the realm of Jayus. Strength of arms, so long as it is done honorably and fairly, is Gloria's purview. It is not about her 'caring', it is about the mode of worship. We worship Gloria by fighting. Even sparring can be considered worshipping Gloria.
Thus, to say that Gloria 'doesn't care' whether or not the issue is serious is besides the point. In fighting, she is given her honors. That said, Your Highness, I applaud you for your decision to stand by the members of your Guild, as that shows a willingness to support and make sure your own prosper.
Written By Shae
May 15, 2018, 1:01 p.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
It's the first day of autumn, though I've felt it in the air for weeks.
Some of the leaves are starting to turn color. My greens will need to be traded in for proper hues. Can't stand out like a green bean in a pile of peppers.
Some of the leaves are starting to turn color. My greens will need to be traded in for proper hues. Can't stand out like a green bean in a pile of peppers.
Written By Khanne
May 15, 2018, 12:16 p.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
It amuses me how often people see fit to tell others what to do or not do, when to take offense or not take offense when it is those very people who appear to take offense so easily and often.
It is also amusing how often people say something that equates to, this is not your business, stay out of it.
If it is not others business, perhaps one should consider keeping it private. If it is not a duel meant for the public, don't advertise it and then there will be no audience to take offense or not. If you do not want your words read and possibly commented on for good or ill... keep your writings to the blacks.
Things brought to the public attention make it open for public reaction. Actions have consequences, whether you like what happens or not.
It is also amusing how often people say something that equates to, this is not your business, stay out of it.
If it is not others business, perhaps one should consider keeping it private. If it is not a duel meant for the public, don't advertise it and then there will be no audience to take offense or not. If you do not want your words read and possibly commented on for good or ill... keep your writings to the blacks.
Things brought to the public attention make it open for public reaction. Actions have consequences, whether you like what happens or not.
Written By Genevieve
May 15, 2018, 12:11 p.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
You can't win all the people all the time, as my dad would say.
He was drunk quite a lot of the time, but still.
He was drunk quite a lot of the time, but still.
Written By Wynna
May 15, 2018, 12:10 p.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Such bustle among in the Archive today. I suppose some other bit of outrage has occurred. Our scholarly wrists shall, as ever, guard the words of men and gods.
But our poor, poor wrists.
As for my next project, I find myself rather intrigued by the life of our previous sovereign, King Alaric the Third. I shall be seeking information about his life, and with any hope, have something to add to the Archive at some point.
But our poor, poor wrists.
As for my next project, I find myself rather intrigued by the life of our previous sovereign, King Alaric the Third. I shall be seeking information about his life, and with any hope, have something to add to the Archive at some point.
Written By Jev
May 15, 2018, 12:07 p.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
I like to get really upset when I can't please everybody too!
WHY AREN'T YOU PLEASED?!
WHY AREN'T YOU PLEASED?!
Written By Jonathan
May 15, 2018, 12:04 p.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Aleksei
Me too, not going to lie, and I am not normally a Lycene Duel person.
Written By Aleksei
May 15, 2018, noon(10/1/1008 AR)
Man, I'm really sad I missed this duel now.
Written By Jonathan
May 15, 2018, 11:49 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Bliss herself did bring her opinion, as the offended party, to the Whites, thus (in my understanding) making it a matter of public record!
While I object to pointless snark and browbeating and the like, if people have an honest opinion about a public matter, then they can feel free to make it known!
Or at least that is what this scholar right here is telling me.
While I object to pointless snark and browbeating and the like, if people have an honest opinion about a public matter, then they can feel free to make it known!
Or at least that is what this scholar right here is telling me.
Written By Arik
May 15, 2018, 11:45 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Saoirse
I rarely respond to a mention of my name in the Whites but for this an exception. I imagine that when the scholar or yourself perused the White archives my journal entries would provide my name and my house. At the very least you would know I am Lord Arik Halfshav and then upon further inspection of my journal which you responded to you would find I am the Sword of Whitehold. By the end of the journal which you read you would conclude that I had an opinion something that the lowest of commoners to the greatest of peers is entitled to last, I stepped outdoors.
Your questions would seem to all have self-evident explanations. Your selective reproach does not.
Your questions would seem to all have self-evident explanations. Your selective reproach does not.
Written By Beaumont
May 15, 2018, 11:42 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
I loathe putting pen to paper. Who has time for it? In any case though, I'm going to weigh in on the matter, as Peerless of the Champions Guild. We are called on to settle any number of things as Champions, all the way up to the point where Swords are involved. A duel involving Swords is a matter of House Honor, or sometimes Fealty Honor, and these are Serious Business indeed.
Some duels are like that too, where feelings are well and truly bruised, and a duel is called to prevent hard feelings from becoming something more implacable. Those too we take very seriously, and even if there's a show - and there's always a show with the Champions Guild - it's more serious than not.
And then there are times when duels are fought over the smallest of incidents. Who gets to host the next tea party. Whose armor looks better in the sunlight. Which color is preferable. There is a certain light-heartedness to this. Bickering between friends or frenemies turns to a duel and it's meant as a spectacle. In those cases, taking everything so seriously as though it is a Rite to Gloria is not just ridiculous, but an insult to the Goddess.
What, scholar?
No, I meant what I said. Calling a full Rite to Gloria or a Sword duel on something as minor as "should you have to post an announcement prior to bringing a group to a bar" is an insult to the Goddess. It turns what it truly a matter of taste into an honor duel and it cheapens the feeling of honor. Do you think Gloria truly cares whether people announce large group attendance at a bar or not? Likely not.
We serve a purpose, here in the Champions Guild. We are by turns serious and lighthearted as the situation warrants. If you didn't like the show, you didn't like the show. But don't act like we've affronted the Goddess or honor with the showmanship of it. We are duelists. We are showmen. We are entertainers.
Are you not entertained?
Some duels are like that too, where feelings are well and truly bruised, and a duel is called to prevent hard feelings from becoming something more implacable. Those too we take very seriously, and even if there's a show - and there's always a show with the Champions Guild - it's more serious than not.
And then there are times when duels are fought over the smallest of incidents. Who gets to host the next tea party. Whose armor looks better in the sunlight. Which color is preferable. There is a certain light-heartedness to this. Bickering between friends or frenemies turns to a duel and it's meant as a spectacle. In those cases, taking everything so seriously as though it is a Rite to Gloria is not just ridiculous, but an insult to the Goddess.
What, scholar?
No, I meant what I said. Calling a full Rite to Gloria or a Sword duel on something as minor as "should you have to post an announcement prior to bringing a group to a bar" is an insult to the Goddess. It turns what it truly a matter of taste into an honor duel and it cheapens the feeling of honor. Do you think Gloria truly cares whether people announce large group attendance at a bar or not? Likely not.
We serve a purpose, here in the Champions Guild. We are by turns serious and lighthearted as the situation warrants. If you didn't like the show, you didn't like the show. But don't act like we've affronted the Goddess or honor with the showmanship of it. We are duelists. We are showmen. We are entertainers.
Are you not entertained?
Written By Saoirse
May 15, 2018, 11:40 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
This is absurd.
Bliss Whisper and Sir Jeffeth provided a service to two peers of the realm, myself and Lady Eirene. Bliss Whisper should not be made to defend that service. Neither should Sir Jeffeth, though for some reason he seems to have flown completely under everyone's radar.
The ONLY two people who are within their rights to take umbrage with Bliss or Jeffeth's performances are myself and Lady Eirene. Lady Eirene has publicly apologized for berating a woman in her service. I found the performance perfectly Lycene. Given that both Lady Eirene and myself hail from the Lyceum, frankly, you all should have figured what you were getting into.
Stop telling people how to do their jobs when they are working on behalf of the peerage, and doing so with great pains and efforts.
Bliss Whisper and Sir Jeffeth provided a service to two peers of the realm, myself and Lady Eirene. Bliss Whisper should not be made to defend that service. Neither should Sir Jeffeth, though for some reason he seems to have flown completely under everyone's radar.
The ONLY two people who are within their rights to take umbrage with Bliss or Jeffeth's performances are myself and Lady Eirene. Lady Eirene has publicly apologized for berating a woman in her service. I found the performance perfectly Lycene. Given that both Lady Eirene and myself hail from the Lyceum, frankly, you all should have figured what you were getting into.
Stop telling people how to do their jobs when they are working on behalf of the peerage, and doing so with great pains and efforts.
Written By Jonathan
May 15, 2018, 11:38 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
irony is not a thing that they teach in Arx, I am finding.
Written By Saoirse
May 15, 2018, 11:36 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Jonathan
When someone behaves like an entitled brat, yes, it becomes public sport to call him or her out.
That said, Lady Eirene apologized to Bliss for her behavior and I would assume the matter is closed.
That said, Lady Eirene apologized to Bliss for her behavior and I would assume the matter is closed.
Written By Saoirse
May 15, 2018, 11:35 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Arik
Why are you commenting on this? Who are you? Did you pay for the duel? No? Alright then.
Written By Lisebet
May 15, 2018, 11:25 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
There do seem to be a lot of people writing comments about other people in their white journals, as though they believe they are blacks. I do not think anyone should discover that I am upset with them or take issue with something they said in my white journals.
My personal opinion of course, and I am well aware that others do not agree with this. One need only review the white journals out there today to see that many disagree with this position. I suppose that diversity is part of what makes Arx such a fascinating city.
My personal opinion of course, and I am well aware that others do not agree with this. One need only review the white journals out there today to see that many disagree with this position. I suppose that diversity is part of what makes Arx such a fascinating city.
Written By Bliss
May 15, 2018, 11:05 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Arik
I suspect that the gash in my side should perhaps be proof enough that we were giving it our all. The show ended up being cut short as it is. There was no mocking of battle being done, this was a real fight for our sponsors, and blood was shed.
In the theatre, no one complains when the actors leave the stage for a scene break. In a war, no one suggests that when two swordsmen step apart due to an order or a horse charging them both that neither is giving their all. When two people are playing a game, if they agree to leave the board to get a drink only to return to it later, no one suggests that neither is playing the game to the best of their ability.
It was a stylistic choice. It is one I will certainly use again, because let's face it, we all can see people just hitting each other with swords until they reach a certain point of exhaustion every single day, at any time, in the training grounds.
Dear gods, people in this city can be so boring. Enjoy when things take an unexpected twist, life is dull when it's predictable.
In the theatre, no one complains when the actors leave the stage for a scene break. In a war, no one suggests that when two swordsmen step apart due to an order or a horse charging them both that neither is giving their all. When two people are playing a game, if they agree to leave the board to get a drink only to return to it later, no one suggests that neither is playing the game to the best of their ability.
It was a stylistic choice. It is one I will certainly use again, because let's face it, we all can see people just hitting each other with swords until they reach a certain point of exhaustion every single day, at any time, in the training grounds.
Dear gods, people in this city can be so boring. Enjoy when things take an unexpected twist, life is dull when it's predictable.
Written By Jonathan
May 15, 2018, 11:04 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
is mocking Eirene and her being dissatisfied a public sport? Is descending upon people when they make a mistake (not saying she has, I wasn't there myself), or forming journal crowds to browbeat a person the fashion? Is that the Arxian way?
Eirene was dissatisfied, it sounds like. Whether this was deserved or not, she has apologized, and the matter is, I assume, officially settled there.
The champions did as they thought best, a winner was decided.
I am far from perfect, and trying to do better about public displays of anger or petulance against a specific person rather than displaying opinions about issues as a whole, but I say, is mocking her and anyone with a dissenting opinion /really/ a grown person's attitude? Are snide comments really the best way to resolve disputes, or simply taking potshots from the sidelines. Recently, I expressed dissatisfaction with the recent whites for exactly this reason.
I am a commoner, I know my words hold little weight, but these are my thoughts.
Eirene was dissatisfied, it sounds like. Whether this was deserved or not, she has apologized, and the matter is, I assume, officially settled there.
The champions did as they thought best, a winner was decided.
I am far from perfect, and trying to do better about public displays of anger or petulance against a specific person rather than displaying opinions about issues as a whole, but I say, is mocking her and anyone with a dissenting opinion /really/ a grown person's attitude? Are snide comments really the best way to resolve disputes, or simply taking potshots from the sidelines. Recently, I expressed dissatisfaction with the recent whites for exactly this reason.
I am a commoner, I know my words hold little weight, but these are my thoughts.
Written By Thena
May 15, 2018, 10:57 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Aureth
These people had better steer well clear of the grounds where our finest warriors (some,of whom happen to also be Champions) practice, else they might never recover!
Written By Aureth
May 15, 2018, 10:47 a.m.(10/1/1008 AR)
Are people offended about shirtless dueling now? Last time I went to a duel it was advertised.
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